Way to go applying what you learned, Elizabeth! Great job! I love the video!

Hi Jam, your AI avatar looks and sounds really great. I know you went through a lot to get to that point. Have you created any kind of cheat sheet or checklist of all the things that would help us mere mortals create really good AI avatars?

@Jam Anderson it's funny you should mention Suno. I've been working a lot with it recently, but actually moved on from it. I was working this week with a multi-platinum songwriter who has written hits for a huge number of stars. He just signed a new publishing deal with Warner Chappell and has a large catalog of demos done over the years, some of which are kind of dated because they were done many years back. We wanted to see if Suno could take those demos and really bring them up to date, and turn them into professional 2025 radio-ready productions. And frankly, it turned out that it really couldn't. It's great at what it can do, but it couldn't do what we needed it to. But in digging deeper, we found out that Producer (https://www.producer.ai/blog/welcome-to-producer) can, and it's blowing our socks off. It took a song demo that had a kind of jazzy Jason Mraz/Bobby McFerrin vibe, and we asked it to make it into a 2025 in-your-face pop production. And it absolutely did and it did it beyond brilliantly. It produced something that people who hear it can't stop singing or dancing to. It's really brilliant. So far, it's created half a dozen different versions and all on the free plan. It works differently than Suno in that you have real conversations with the AI. Just like talking to Manus or ChatGPT, so you can really tweak and fine-tune, and even have very good conversations about copyright issues and stuff like that too. I'm not putting Suno down. It - and Udio, Tunee, and some others - are great, but for us this is something else.

@Jam Anderson Hi Jam, I haven't had a chance to try or cost the ElevenLabs video options yet. They all typically use the same APIs and they pay per video seconds etc., so they typically do increase the costs above the API cost in order to not make a loss. I currently like https://wavespeed.ai for a few reasons - they tend to be less expensive, they show the price up front, and they tend to render faster. Probably the least expensive way to go is to use an API like kie.ai - it's what I use when building front-ends for tools like Sora 2 and VEO 3 etc.

I took a look at images and videos in ElevenLabs, and I really really like the workflow. It's really excellent. But I don't like the credit amounts. For instance, a 6-second VEO 3.1 video with two variations is 48,000 credits.

@Juanita Carpenter Yes, see the attached. Supposedly Cloudflare runs CDN for 20% of active websites, according to a colleague.