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Slow and Steady...
I mountain bike and ski...as often as I can. I have been able to ride and ski a lot more since I quit my job last November, and that makes me happy. I used to use the two sports as an escape, but now I see them differently, I realized. I was mountain biking the other day and realized that the way I approach riding a bike on dirt is, in many ways, the way I approach my finances. You see, I live in the foothills of the Wasatch, some steep mountains, so when I go to ride, it is all uphill until I turn around and come back down. Climbing takes some skill, definitely some fitness, but it is mostly a head game. Turning off the ego and just grinding up the hill is sometimes the only way to progress. And sometimes you have to walk. The video below is one of those times. I have a sign on a shelf next to my desk that says: "Look far off only long enough to see the goal - then start where you are, put your head down and take one step at a time". This is a defining pillar in Tortoise Method. How do you create headspace when things get hard?
Slow and Steady...
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This analogy works for so many facets of my life. I remember when I first started riding with other people. I had been riding trails by myself for a couple of years. (Mountain biking wasn't very popular in Eastern Tennessee at the turn of the century.) The guys I started riding with had better bikes and way more experience than I did. Initially, I thought these full-squish monster truck bikes they were riding were the reason they were able to ride so many sections cleaner and faster than me. They pointed out that I wasn't looking ahead enough. I was completely focused on what was right in front of my wheel. I had never thought of looking ahead to plan a line before I got there. This was also how I had lived my life so far. Planning for the future wasn't a part of my family's culture. There was no plan. There was only adapt. I took pride in my ability to adapt, but I didn't realize how effective having a longer term plan was. Not hopes, dreams, and wishes, but a well thought out plan, based on experience, reflection, and refinement. Eventually I got comfortable with looking further down the trail, and not worrying so much about what was right in front of my wheel. I began to plan my line well before I got to the obstacles. It took years before I was able to apply this concept to my finances. I am still not a slow and steady rider. I don't know if I ever will be, but I have learned to look ahead, build momentum, and power through obstacles. Walking feels like failure, but sometimes it is necessary. The goal is still ahead, and there is still plenty of opportunity to jump back on the saddle.
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@Rory Piontkowski Self-indulgent? Of course it's self indulgent! We inherit our parents flaws, and not many people evolve past them. Celebrate that shit!
Saturday reading...
Most people I talk to have already run the math. They know the numbers work. Or they might even have a side business already making real money. And they still won't pull the trigger. This article names one big reason why: the job isn't just a paycheck. It's identity. Leaving means admitting something to yourself, to your family, to anyone who watched you grind for it. What the article doesn't say (but I will): you don't need everything figured out before you go. You need a bridge, a transition that protects the family while the next thing scales. Not a switch flip. A structure. Certainty isn't the bar. Clarity is. A good-enough plan, personalized and stress-tested by someone who'll give you an honest verdict, is. I have a question: What do you think about the concept of "FU money"? The Identity Trap That Keeps People Working Years After They Can Afford to Quit - 24/7 Wall St. https://share.google/eNEJmNn7uIIhE6MNY
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I detest modern, consumer grade furniture. It's all glue, sawdust, and stickers. I often fantasize about making my own. I watch videos of makers, with all their power tools, dedicated workshops, and exotic materials. The money it would require to buy all of this stuff seems daunting, so I keep fantasizing instead of planning and practicing. Then there are the videos from the rest of the world: traditional Japanese joinery, Europeans' penchant for hand saws, and guys from south-east Asia who can rebuild an engine with a rock and torch. Our consumerist culture doesn't promote the simple basics. We live in a "make the money, buy the shortcut" society. But it's never a shortcut. It's a trap. Instead of improving yourself, pursuing your interests, chasing your own dreams, you allow yourself to being duped into working for someone else's dream (who you probably don't even like). FU Money buys food, shelter, and time, for those curious enough to learn how to create something, and are disciplined enough to follow through.
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I would only do woodworking for my own personal satisfaction, for my own needs, or gifts for friends and family. If I had FU money, I'd have a bike shop, with a taco trailer out front, a shuttle van in the back, and a mini excavator for trail building. Probably the worst possible financial endeavor imaginable. Have I ever actually sat down and tried to run the numbers, what would it actually take? No. So far, I've spent the past few years trying to figure out how I can get something like the Salt Lake Bicycle Collective thing going, using my current job as an in. I've had some encouraging conversations with a few people around the state, and I think I can start making something happen in the next year. Ideally, that could become my main focus eventually. An NPO seems like the most likely path forward.
The hardest decision of my life...
Six years ago, I was tired of my job…I mean, BONE-WEARY, like I dreaded waking up just to go to my home office and do the work anymore. Every Sunday, I would get so anxious, my family couldn’t stand to be around me, and I would self-medicate to get to sleep almost every night of the week. I had a young family, and I had a lifestyle I had created that gobbled up everything I brought home every month. One thought invaded my mind every time I tried to get creative: “What would everyone think if I just…walked away??” I blamed myself for being weak, the job for being stifling, and the people around me for just not understanding. Then COVID hit… It may have been the space created by no longer traveling for work, or by working fewer hours per week during that time. Or, just the fear of being faced with something so large, so unknown, and so unprecedented. But something broke. I started to question WHY I was killing myself to follow this path. What I had achieved was the result of years of hard work, focus, and determination, and at one time, it had been a dream of mine to get where I was. It felt irresponsible to risk my family's future on some new dream that I didn’t even know what it looked like yet! But I knew I could no longer live that dream; I had outgrown it. I was in therapy at the same time, learning how to sleep better. The therapist was a young man, not long out of college. He asked me all the standard questions and put me through the standard treatments, but learning this new process suddenly gave me POWER. That power came from the clarity of recognizing that I had a problem and that I needed help to retrain myself to do something as simple as getting and staying asleep. Instead of thinking “why me?”, I began to think “why not me?”, and not just about my sleep troubles. I no longer felt moving on was failure. It was a natural progression for me, and I just needed to leverage my strengths to forge a path forward. The result had to be an exit from the corporate world I felt trapped in, but the path had to be measured, responsible, and foolproof.
The hardest decision of my life...
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I've had at least 5 major resets in my adult life. I didn't know how I was going to move forward. I didn't know what I was going to do, where I was going to work, or where I was going to live. I went through the phases of anger, blame, and shame, but that shit was depressing. Nietzsche said "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into thee." Depression and hopelessness is that monster. Fear of the monster always drove me to action. I had to do something, anything. Any forward momentum meant not facing the void, and, as always, momentum would always slowly build.
Story time...
In an earlier post in this Community, I talked about my prior job, and the success I had there, increasing my income every year for 10 years, but what I didn't mention was that the company cut that income every year for the last 4, so that by the time I left, I was making 40% less than I had been. But that wasn't why I quit last November. In a YouTube video, I talked more about deciding that I didn't want to maintain that level of stress and commitment, so I planned my way out. That took me 5 years... but I had already been saving diligently up to that point, maxing out my 401 (k) and investing outside it as well. I was building my safety net and my net worth for many years. But that wasn't really why I quit either. What I haven't talked about is the REAL reason I decided to walk away from the perceived comfort and security of my cushy 9-5. My Dad struggled financially his entire life, but especially after he got laid off from the job he thought he would retire with a big pension from. That was after only just over a decade of working for them. His experience and knowledge made him one of the preeminent experts in his field in his area, but he was never able to fully capitalize on it, even after running his own business for years. Then he fell off a cliff. This was meant literally, but there is a figurative aspect as well. He shattered his pelvis, his hip, and got a massive concussion. He was life-flighted out of a remote area of Utah back home to Colorado. He got patched back together and went into recovery fairly hopeful. Then he just...gave up. Long story short, over a 10-year span, he went from re-learning how to walk, to living in a wheelchair, and finally ending up bedridden in a nursing home...at age 70. It probably had something to do with the head injury, but he stopped trying to get stronger very early in the recovery process. It just hurt too much. I took care of him in those final years, selling his only assets to try and pay for the care he needed, getting him eligible for Medicaid to qualify for the long-term care he needed, and then finally making the final arrangements when he died at age 72, lying in bed.
1 like • Apr 30
I don't think my dad ever held a job for more than 18 months at a time. His bipolar and narcissistic personality disorders made him an unpredictable asshole. My mom occasionally had a part-time job, but spent most of her time raising 5 kids. We moved almost every year. I went to 5 different elementary schools. By the time I was in middle school, my parents had run out of options and had to move us into government housing projects. Shame and anger were my most prevalent emotions during the next 7 years. The beginning of my sophomore year, I was expelled. I spent the next 3 years in and out of juvenile programs, which was better than being at home. Luckily, a few of my friends and girlfriends had amazing moms. They provided an example of what a functional family looked like. They were examples of what success looked like. They treated me like part of their family. After the juvenile programs and high school, I still struggled with anger and self-discipline, but these moms still continued to support and guide me. They helped me want to do better and be better. I'd like to say this was the beginning of my meteoric rise to success, but it wasn't. I went through a lot of jobs and semi-successful semesters of college, trying to find my place. I didn't make a lot of forward academic or financial progress. I did avoid legal trouble, and began to temper a lot of my bad habits and emotions. At 27, I decided to move across the country, 1,911 miles away from home. I think this is the best thing almost every young person can do. Going back home wasn't an option for me. I wanted to give these moms, that had been so important to me, some indication that all of their love and support had made a real difference. It's taken about 20 years, but I am at a place in life where I feel like I have achieved some level of professional success. I still talk to 2 of these moms. I still celebrate my small success stories with them. I live a life that my parents never would have never dreamed of living. I have escaped the generational traps of poverty, abuse, and struggles with mental health. I want Dianne and Elizabeth (the two moms) to see and understand how effective their example and influence on my life was. (I think there is a compounding interest analogy here.)
Happiness as a natural outcome, not an interminable target
Interesting Saturday read: “Happiness isn’t something you achieve and keep. It’s the natural byproduct when you live true to what matters and learn to recognize the good already in your life.” I am guilty of this: if you set vague goals for yourself such as "things will get easier when" or " if I just keep my head down for .." then you are deferring action until later. We thrive when we set actionable, achievable goals, with specific measurable outcomes and timeliness. I am interested to hear: how do YOU measure Happiness? https://siliconcanals.com/t-research-suggests-the-habit-of-deferring-happiness-ill-enjoy-life-when-the-kids-leave-when-i-retire-when-things-calm-down-isnt-patience-its-a-pattern-that-simply-moves-the-horizon-forward-no-matter/
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@Rory Piontkowski Eventually novelty will not produce a dopamine effect. Novelty becomes mundane. Or... You could end up on Epstein Island, pushing the boundaries of novelty. I don't either are healthy, for anyone.
1 like • Apr 26
Blame and complaining have always been viral. It's too easy to jump on the complain train. It can also be economically or politically beneficial. If you can avoid or redirect blame, you get to avoid consequences. It's a win at any cost mentality. For regular people, I think blaming and complaining are strategies that attempt to avoid change and mask insecurities and inadequacies.
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