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Real Estate Note Investors

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Community chat in 30 minutes!
We had an awesome Expert Session call in the Mastermind yesterday learning how to turn Unsecured Debt into Secured Debt with Judgments. Very cool topic & a great speaker - recording is here for our top-level members. And in 30 minutes we're going live with our bi-monthly community chat! Everyone is invited, see you at 3pm EST!! https://www.skool.com/live/JscN95TDrXD
Tax efficiency with notes
Is there any form of tax advantages with notes? I haven’t seen anything important there is but perhaps it’s just something I’ve missed. Thank you for all feedback in advanced 😄
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Great question @Nathan Trenery - I would recommend you verify with your CPA (since I am not a tax strategy expert by any means) but from what I understand, there are some advantages and disadvantages: ✅ Advantages 1. No payroll tax / self-employment tax - Interest income from notes is not subject to FICA or self-employment taxes.You keep more of what you earn. 2. Capital gains on discounted notes - If you buy a note at a discount and later resell it or the borrower pays off, the spread is generally treated as a capital gain (often taxed lower than ordinary income). 3. Tax-deferred or tax-free growth in retirement accounts - Notes can be held inside Roth IRAs, Traditional IRAs, Solo 401(k)s, etc.Inside these accounts, interest and payoffs grow tax-deferred or tax-free. ⚠️ Disadvantages 1. Ordinary income on monthly payments - Borrower payments (interest + some principal) are typically taxed as ordinary income, not capital gains—especially on performing or re-performing notes. 2. OID (Original Issue Discount) rules - When you buy a note at a discount, the IRS may treat part of the gain as accrued interest, which is taxed as ordinary income—even before you receive cash in some cases. 3. No depreciation - Unlike owning rentals, note investors can’t use depreciation to reduce taxable income.
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Sure thing, yes - I converted my LLC to an S-corp last year and I have all my employees and myself on payroll now. In addition to making estimated tax payments we also use net-zero bonus checks through payroll to avoid underpayment penalties while also funding social security. And I'm using regular real estate investments for depreciation and other advantages. For example - over the last 3 years I've purchased 3 of my neighbor's houses to establish a FIXnotes campus where we will eventually have in-person events & host our clients. Finally, I buy cash-flowing notes in my SDIRA (actually reminds me that I have cash to deploy in there ASAP!) Thanks for the question @Nathan Trenery
Sourcing Deals for Note Creation
Hey everyone, my name is Maya Rivers. I'm excited to be here and learn from this high-level group. My expertise is on the front-end of the business: I'm an acquisitions specialist who sources distressed, off-market properties (both SFR and multi-family). I understand that the best performing notes are often created from clean, rehabbed assets. My goal is to find the raw materials for that process—the ugly houses that can be acquired at a deep discount, creating a perfect equity position for a note creation play. I'm looking to build JV partnerships with investors who see the value in this pipeline. I find the deal, you take it down and create the note. If you're looking for a consistent source of off-market properties to fuel your note creation strategy, I'd love to connect. Best, Maya Rivers mayarivers2018@gmail.com
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great to have you @Maya Rivers - sounds like you have a lot to offer the group! looking forward to working together!!
Any musicians in the community? 🎷
Here's a new category to connect with other real estate entrepreneurs that share your interests! Think of it like a virtual "water cooler" to talk about any off-topic hobbies or activities you enjoy outside of making money. Personally, I haven't played a gig since 2024 (and that was the first in many, many years!) but I had a chance to join my friend's band for some Christmas songs this weekend in front of 2,500+ people! Connect with me on Linkedin to see how rusty I was! linkedin.com/in/roberthytha And comment below if you're a musician!
Any musicians in the community? 🎷
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Yep, chose alto sax for 4th grade band @Kareem Aaron - that was the tenor in the vid on Linkedin. Yes bass isn't as flashy, but very important for the band!
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Thanks @Iván Terrero - it was good enough that I got invited out to play another gig this weekend (indoors this time)!
Mini Agency: "Portfolio Monitoring" -- can someone explain?
Hello, all, So I finished the $1M Real Estate Roadmap a while back, and I've been referencing the page about starting a "mini agency" to provide services within the note investing space and trying to "earn while you learn." I'm having a little trouble understanding what it entails to offer the services of "acquisitions" and "portfolio monitoring/servicing oversight" as they're described in that course. What exactly does it mean to "manage the logistics of servicing transfers" and "ensure that borrowers keep paying" as a sort of third-party in the note investing relationship? Those of us with more experience: have you used services like these before?
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Hi @Cg Amos - great question! I started my "mini-agency" in 2017 after learning the business for 6 years on the inside. One aspect of the business at a time, I expanded what I could offer my clients. Here’s what those services actually look like in the real world: Acquisitions Support - Tracking down tapes, verifying data, cleaning up inconsistencies - Running quick-turn due diligence: taxes, title, occupancy, valuation - Preparing offers and coordinating with sellers - Managing closing logistics (collateral shipping, assignments, bailee letters, onboarding) Servicing Oversight / Portfolio Monitoring - Setting up and supervising servicing transfers (loan boarding, escrow setup, taxes/insurance verification) - Making sure the servicer is actually working the loan: timelines, notices, loss-mit steps - Monitoring payment performance and flagging delinquencies early - Coordinating property preservation, insurance renewals, and tax advances - Communicating with attorneys/servicers on collections, mod reviews, BK filings, and foreclosure steps - Keeping investors updated with monthly reporting so they stay out of the weeds Why Investors Pay for This Most note investors want the returns, not the operational complexity. A reliable portfolio manager saves them time, reduces mistakes, and keeps their deals moving. It’s extremely high-leverage support. How to Get Started Yourself 1. Audit your strengths. 2. Pick one value-add service. 3. Execute flawlessly. 4. Expand your offering over time. In my opinion, this path is one of the fastest ways to embed yourself in the industry, get paid to learn, and build the exact skills that make great note investors. If you approach it professionally, you can build a six-figure “mini-agency” before ever buying a note yourself. And you'll have the confidence & skills to be successful on your first deal for your own portfolio without as much trial & error.
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Robert Hytha
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Helping borrowers, banks & real estate entrepreneurs since 2011. Making Distressed Debt Investing Ethical, Accessible & Profitable

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