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Are we connected on Linkedin?
Here's a hack to tap into a real network of real estate entrepreneurs - connect with me on Linkedin! 🌐 You'll become 2nd degree connections with the ~2,000 industry pros that follow me. All I ask in return? Like & comment on my latest post 👈 do it here pretty please 😅 Drop your profile link in the comments 👇 so we can all link up with you!
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Perfect - Thank You! https://www.linkedin.com/in/abogie/
📣 ROUND 2: The Pricing Game! [complete]
📊 RESULTS ARE IN - here are the details & actual metrics for Round 2: Strong engagement and solid reasoning across the board. Most guesses clustered in the 25%–35% of UPB range, reflecting realistic risk pricing given vacancy, back taxes, and package dynamics. Several of you correctly anchored on tax liability + timeline risk as the things most dragging down the value. Actual purchase price: $3,000!! (~10% of the UPB) That comes in below most estimates, reinforcing how cheap you can pick up a small-balance, vacant 1st position loan with negative factors like taxes and long foreclosure timelines (especially as part of a package deal, this trade was a total contract of 10 loans for $79,172.00 sale price - 38% of UPB total) Closest guess (winner): @Dj Olojo with $7,075 (25% of UPB) - correct framework, even if the sale price surprised to the downside. What's ironic about this - DJ was the actual buyer of this NPL back in 2024! Looks like you got a better deal than you remembered 😜 Honorable mentions: - @Iván Terrero 30% of UPB with package logic - @Andrew Bogie - strong equity vs. tax offset analysis - @Nathan Trenery - wisdom-of-the-crowd approach On Today's call, we’ll break down: - Why this asset cleared at $3,000 - Where most investors overestimated value - How buyers think about minimum viable pricing on small-balance seconds - How this compares to pricing if the same asset were performing And for those that missed it - here was the original post: 📣 The Pricing Game — Round 2 🕹️ How to Play 1. Review the deal data below 2. Comment with your best guess for the final sale price 3. Optional: add 1–2 sentences explaining your logic 4. Closest guess wins the round 📂 Today’s Deal: Another REAL Closed Transaction Asset Type: Charged-Off, Non-Performing 1st Mortgage (Senior Lien, NPL)
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Looks like back taxes of $6,646 offset equity value of $6,700 and create near zero equity. So, being vacant and part of a package, guessing 35% UPB or $9,905.
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@Shaun Hunt Thanks Shaun...glad to be getting some practice here for the real bids.
First NPN Experience
Wanted to follow up and offer an overview of my first npn purchase, as discussed with Robert, in hope that there are some learning/teaching points for discussion. This deal was back in 2018, and I had become interested in NPN's after doing a course with Scott Carson. I enjoyed his course and learned a lot, and was eager to get my feet wet. I formed an LLC and scoured some tapes from various brokers, and eventually found a cherry pick opportunity for an sfr in Saint Louis, MO. The note was a CFD (Contract For Deed) and the home was a small, older, but attractive brick home with a nice front porch, 3/2, with garage in back, and on a reasonably attractive street. The UPB was approx $32K and the FMV was around $45-$50K based on comps. ..I made a bid and we ultimately closed at 40% UPB, or about $13K. I was excited and we started the diligence period. We obtained the collateral file and pulled O&E reports and checked utilities and tax accounts, and things seemed to be in reasonable order. The owners were a couple who operated their own hair salon. ..We also reviewed their credit reports. We ultimately learned that the husband had recently passed away in an accident, so the wife was on her own. ...That's obviously a tough situation, and maybe should have been a red flag, but the actual monthly payment wasn't too high, and the arrears weren't too bad. My approach is patient and compassionate, so I was optimistic we could work with her. We had the loan boarded with Madison Management and they were very helpful and sent the borrower welcome letter and conducted the reach out. ...Initially things seemed promising as borrower was communicative. We wanted to be compassionate, and with Madison's help, we wrote off some of the arrears and re-structured the note to reduce the payment and bring her current. ...Again, my wife and I were optimistic about the workout and hoped to let it perform and season for awhile. Unfortunately, after a couple months, borrower had problems and payments became late and partials. ...So, again, given borrower's personal circumstances, we wanted to try to work with her. We executed a second re-structure in hopes she could make it work. Unfortunately, problems cropped up again within just a few months, and we began to realize things weren't going to be easy.
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@Kareem Aaron Thank you Kareem.
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@Iván Terrero Thank you Ivan.
Introduce Yourself Here!
Let's get things started off right with a post about you & your goals in the industry. Make a reply below and tell us: - What's your professional background - How you heard about note investing - Why you'd like to learn - Where you're looking to go with your business Then like & respond to one of your new colleagues post to start earning points to move up the leaderboard (and get a chance to win our monthly contest).
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@Robert Hytha Thanks Robert and look forward to the journey! ...I'll follow up with another post with more details of my first npn.
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@Robert Hytha Wanted to follow up and offer an overview of my first npn purchase, as mentioned earlier, in hope that there are some learning/teaching points for discussion. This deal was back in 2018, and I had become interested in npn's after doing a course with Scott Carson. I enjoyed his course and learned a lot and was eager to get my feet wet. I formed my LLC and scoured some tapes from various brokers and eventually found a cherry pick opportunity for an sfr in Saint Louis, MO. The note was a CFD and the home was a small, older but attractive brick home with nice front porch, 3/2 with garage in back, and on a reasonably attractive street. The UPB was approx $32K and the FMV was around $45-$50K based on comps. ..I made a bid and we ultimately closed at 40% upb, or about $13K. I was excited and we started the diligence period. We obtained the collateral file and pulled O&E reports and things seemed to be in order. However, the owners were a couple who operated their own hair salon. ..We also reviewed their credit reports and ultimately learned that the husband had recently passed away in an accident, and so the wife was on her own. ...That's obviously a tough situation, and maybe should have been a red flag, but the actual monthly payment wasn't that high and the arrears weren't too bad, and my approach is patient and compassionate, so I was optimistic we could work with her. We had the loan boarded with Madison Management and they were very helpful and sent the borrower welcome letter and conducted the reach out. ...Initially things seemed promising as borrower was communicative. We wanted to be compassionate, and with Madison's help, we wrote off some of the arrears and restructured the note to reduce the payment and bring her current. ...Again, my wife and I were optimistic about the workout and hoped to let it perform and season for awhile. Unfortunately, after a couple months, borrower had problems and payments became late and partials. ...So, again, given borrower's personal circumstances, we wanted to try again to work with her, so we executed a second restructure in hopes she could make it work. Unfortunately, problems cropped up again within just a few months, and we began to realize things weren't going to be easy. So, given that we had CFD, we had a strong position and we worked with an attorney to firmly make that clear to the borrower. Unfortunately, she just wasn't able to perform. ..So, after about a year, we were ultimately able to negotiate with her through Madison and the attorney, and able to offer enough in a "cash for keys" deal to allow her to get settled elsewhere. ...That was a seeming success, but we had also used a Forced Place insurance policy and had a roof claim due to hail in the meantime, so that was an additional complication. ...Anyway, we ultimately used a local Preservation company to clean out the home and then listed it with local broker. ...We finally sold it a couple months later for about $35K, and my expenses had totaled up to about $25K, so after commission, we had a modest gain. The road was obviously bumpy but we believe we did everything we could to work with the borrower.
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Andrew Bogie
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Post career military and owned a few residential and a commercial rentals. Also dabbled with performing and NPN's and interested in learning more.

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