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290 contributions to Local AI Visibility Central
What is realistice? GMBS
Hey guys, realistically. How far can we get a single GMb to show in the 3-pack. I though I noted other doing it in large metro areas such as chicago while other say its impossible. With the work we do with relevance, can it be extended throught and area like chicago?
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I have 1 ranking in 4 states (not solid green) with a single pin. Onve your out of the small sandbox and the business can realisticly show they service the zone you can rank in HUGE areas
AI serch using different paramiters that Google Maps.
I saw this post in Facebook: Something interesting was noted this week in the local SEO space… Two Google searches were performed for **ā€œChicago plumbersā€**: A traditional search showing the Map Pack A conversational search triggering an AI Overview Here’s the surprising part: There was **zero overlap** between the 3 businesses in the Map Pack and the 3 businesses recommended in the AI Overview. Not one business appeared in both. After analyzing all 6 companies across multiple platforms, the findings were eye-opening. ### The AI Overview businesses had: Perfect NAP consistency (identical info everywhere) Strong institutional authority (BBB listings, awards, associations) Clean technical profiles with no data conflicts Current licensing and compliance documentation No schema markup ### The Map Pack businesses had: Strong engagement and visibility Higher review volume overall Schema markup implemented Multiple NAP variations Conflicting or outdated business information Weaker institutional authority signals This challenges a lot of conventional SEO thinking. Schema markup is designed to help search engines and AI better understand content — yet the AI Overview favored businesses that simply nailed the fundamentals: • Consistent, verified citations • Real-world authority signals • Clean external data validation • Institutional credibility It appears Google’s AI may be operating on a different trust model than traditional local search. And when referring to citations, this doesn’t mean blasting listings across low-quality directories. It means 10–15 high-quality, verified platforms that require legitimate business documentation. Google is actively testing AI Overviews for conversational queries. Today it’s plumbers in Chicago. Tomorrow it could be your market. If you’re in local SEO or run a local service business, this shift is worth paying attention to. The businesses winning the Map Pack today may not be the same ones AI recommends tomorrow. Reference from Caleb Ulku
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@Kurt Schlichting Great Find.. so lets add to Data to the Correlation so its actionable... What Caleb observed is real. What he's missing is WHY. The Map Pack and AI Overview aren't just using "different trust models" — they're fundamentally different systems that process information in completely different ways. Map Pack = Algorithm matching signals. Google's local algorithm is a structured ranking system that evaluates proximity, prominence, and relevance through specific signals: review count, GBP optimization, schema markup feeding structured data, engagement metrics. It's reading code and signals. AI Overview = LLM resolving entities. Google's AI Overview is powered by a large language model that was trained on the open web. It doesn't "read" schema markup the way Google's crawler does. It resolves entities the way a human researcher would — by looking for corroboration across multiple trusted sources. It's reading language and reputation. This is the critical distinction Caleb is dancing around but not naming: An LLM evaluating "Chicago plumbers" is essentially asking: "Which businesses can I confidently identify as real, legitimate, established plumbing companies in Chicago based on everything I've been trained on?" That's why the AI Overview businesses had: - Perfect NAP consistency → The entity resolves cleanly with zero ambiguity. The LLM can confidently say "this is one business" not "this might be three different businesses with similar names" - BBB, awards, associations → These are high-authority training data sources. LLMs weight institutional mentions heavily because they appear in curated, editorial, verified contexts - No data conflicts → Conflicting information creates entity ambiguity, and LLMs avoid recommending things they can't resolve with confidence - No schema markup needed → Because the LLM isn't reading schema. It's reading the actual text on BBB pages, association directories, and licensing databases
sorry for the ubrupt ending.. I lost internet
well Office hours Ended suddenly... What I was saying... - I will get the replays up Friday - If you have questions that you need answered on the call and can't make it send me a message We will cover it in a live call
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This Lands Your Next 10 Local Clients For You?
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@Sean Moher yes... I will work on Getting Nov, and Jan added this week
Cold Email
Anybody try a cold email offer that's working to get local clients that you wouldn't mind sharing?
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no, but I am working on a system that blankets an area and captures leads, and then with remarketing, lets you run small ads to tripwire offers ... basicly warm them up and then generate the lead ... My goal is to generate 20 leads a month with the new system...
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