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How do you prove retention, engagement, and demand early?
How will you prove early retention, engagement, and demand beyond building the product?
This was a question I was asked today by a fellow LinkedIn lover. The question itself was a bit more rounded than that, but I realized the response deserved to be public because it’s useful information.
Although my list of accomplishments spans 160+ projects, I’m not afraid to say I’m still new to Sales as a Service and Leadership as a nurtured skill.
I’m not perfect,.. I’m just really good at a lot of things.
I’d genuinely like some feedback.
What do you all think of my response?
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William Harbour
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That was all very useful information that I need to consider, and I appreciate you taking the time to write that. Although,
that is the issue I plan to solve.
Validation = Proof of Work
My Zetsumetsu Corporation is not here to change that, but to change the order of the structure that creates it.
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ZetsuEDU is about Structure.
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If we make Proof of Work = the Process of Creation,
then we can effectively apply Enactive Cognition.
Thinking that arises through active engagement, not passive memorization.
In this way, validation comes from the act of doing.
You don't need to prove retention and engagement metrics,
when you are the retention and engagement metrics.
People already complain about hack solutions and pay competitors for what is already available (like what's happening here).
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Zetsu EDU — Project-Based Validation
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I ensure Zetsu EDU's project-based validation process by structuring each framework personally based on Zetsu logic.
The same work that created the Zetsumetsu EOE reality we are speaking inside of today.
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Validation Layers
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Student ships a working app, site, system, or artifact
→ Outcome validation
The thing runs, deploys, renders, compiles, or performs
→ Review validation
Instructor checks against defined requirements
→ Gate validation
You don’t move forward until validation passes.
Until you build your idea.
Until you reach a Zetsumetsu.
No grades-for-effort
No abstract testing
No “I understand” without proof
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Process
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Plan → Build → Revise → Repeat
That is a Zetsumetsu, the loop, the restart, the thing that happens when time moves, when ideas become reality.
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Pillar Correction
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Curation, Control, Behavior, Solution, Problem, Validation
⟶ these are the wrong pillars
It should be:
Solution
Working paths
Reusable results
Framework implementation
That bypasses validation by becoming it.
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Meaning
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The system does not ask to be validated
The system demonstrates validity through use
If the path works and can be reused, that is the validation
Validation is not a step — it is an emergent property of execution
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Conclusion
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Validation is obsolete when the solution itself is the proof.
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How do you prove retention, engagement, and demand early?
