Scott Galloway was my first inspiration for starting this community. I heard him speak about the crisis of young men and the lack of male role models about a year ago.
This talk with Scott and Logan Ury is a great place to start to connect the dots. Avoidant NICE guys make for shitty citizens and unattractive men.
Scott is a gem for starting this movement of brining back male role models. And he’s correct about almost everything in the video.
What he seems to miss is the part where he won’t shut up about how valuable kindness is to women. As we know from my other post “We don’t listen to people’s words, we look at their actions”, kindness is not the issue.
Hoards of failing men (NICE guys for the most part) do not lack kindness. In fact, they lack the opposite, they lack rudeness! Sounds crazy, but that is actually what they need to work on: developing a personality, getting a little rough around the edges.
Setting boundaries that challenge women.
Now, being kind is not totally free of effort. Granted, it does take a little effort to be kind to others.
But it’s a far cry away from the qualities which require us to actually work on ourselves, the meat and bones toil and striving. The qualities that will actually put an end to failing men, such as:
- earning money (provider)
- being physically fit and able to defend yourself (protector)
- humor (confidence)
- being a leader (confidence)
- being preselected by other women (all of the above combined)
Anyhow, I wrote this long-ass comment underneath the video (see below). Expectedly, it was too long for more people to actually read and like. And it’s not going to change anything because it’s essentially complaining a little.
But eventually I do expect to be able to hold women a little accountable (not really) as our world is moving ever faster. Who knows, maybe one day we'll have girls communities learning accountability from... no one! 😂
Here’s my comment:
“Isn't it a little one-sided to spend 2.5 hours discussing how men can improve without once acknowledging that with new power comes new responsibility?
I know this is a pipe dream because it goes against female nature. Women evolved a hypergamous mating strategy to separate the wheat from the chaff.
However, girls growing up need to be taught accountability in the courtship process, at least to some extent, as ludicrous as it sounds. Moreover, they need to develop some awareness for precise, honest language that doesn't contradict itself on every corner.
Praise women for their EQ and social skills all you want, they’re not good at sending honest signals. Either because they’re not in touch with their actual desires (less likely) or because they're scared to communicate them honestly, or, as mentioned, saying one thing and doing another is their whole mating strategy. Again, I know this is not going to change but just food for thought.
As a society, we need to learn to say the quiet part out loud. Without shame. Don’t be telling men you want vulnerability and emotionality when you really want something else.
As male role models we will do our part in teaching boys the language of women. But in a sane society the other side has to pull its weight, too. Your desires are what they are. The woke mind virus will be wiped out eventually. Evolution is a real thing, and we are apes. It is what it is.
The game has changed, women are in a new position of power. That's amazing. If we acknowledged just a little bit what they can do to move society forward in the mating realm, the debate would sound a little more even-keeled. Let's aim for 70:30 of how much men:women need to work on themselves, please, not 100:0.
Less like men are a species of Homer Simpsons that needs to learn to cater to female nature. Right off the bat, this very notion is putting women on a pedestal which is exactly not what they want. Technology and materialistic success/prosperity seems to make women excel and men flounder because it feminizes everything. It is what it is, let’s work with it.
P.s. Hypergamy is a real thing. Let’s speak about it openly. It evolved for good reasons. It has its place. The digitization and commercialization of mating has put forth a new mutation—hypergamy on steroids. We should be skeptical about this new variant. It might be more than our society can stomach.”