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The "109 Countries" Lie: Debunked
Neo-Nazis claim Jews were "expelled from 109 countries." The ADL traces this lie to Bible Believer's Church in Australia—a Holocaust-denying hate group. Their methodology? Count cities as countries, count France 6 times, throw in ancient wars, and you get... 109. Let's do the honest count: Medieval/Early Modern Europe: 15-18 actual country-wide expulsions: - England 1290 (Edward I's Edict) - Spain 1492 (Alhambra Decree) - Portugal 1496 (Manuel I) - France 1182, 1254, 1306, 1322, 1359, 1394 - Hungary 1360 - Austria 1420-1421, 1669-1670 - Bavaria 1442, 1551 - Papal States 1569, 1593 - Naples 1288, 1495, 1510 - Sicily 1493, Navarre 1498 - Visigothic Spain 612 Arab/Muslim World: 10-13 total: - Early: Medina 7th century, Almohades 12th century (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Muslim Spain), Yemen 1679 - Modern 1947-1972: Iraq (120,000), Egypt (75,000+), Libya (35,000), Yemen again (49,000), Algeria (140,000), Morocco (265,000), Tunisia (100,000), Syria (30,000) - Honest total: 25-30 across 2,700 years. One expulsion every 90-100 years across the entire planet. Now watch the fraud: Frankfurt (1614) — They call it a "country." It was a Free Imperial City *inside* the Holy Roman Empire. Not a nation. Nuremberg (1499) — Same thing. City, not country. Vienna (1669) — Habsburg capital. Part of Austria, which they *already counted separately*. France appears SIX TIMES (1182, 1254, 1306, 1322, 1359, 1394). That's ONE country having a cycle of expulsion-readmission-expulsion. They count it as six "countries." Bavaria appears FOUR TIMES (1276, 1442, 1551, 1701). Same duchy, different centuries. They count each as a separate "expulsion." Babylonian Captivity (587 BCE)? That was a military conquest—soldiers destroying Jerusalem and taking prisoners of war. Not an expulsion decree. Roman suppressions (73 CE, 135 CE)? Military defeats after Jewish revolts. Not government policy expelling Jews from lands. Still think 109 is real? Wikipedia lists EVERY displacement event in Jewish history—ancient wars, medieval expulsions, Crusade massacres, pogroms, the Holocaust, refugee movements, everything—and gets ~90 total entries across 2,700 years.
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Exactly, but what's even more important is that, regardless how many countries have seen Jews expelled, it reflects the depravity of the country, not the nature of the Jews or Judaism.
Was the Iraq Invasion justified? It seems It may have had numerous justifications.
The discussion about the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq is still very heated, as shown in a recent episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored where Valentina Gomez was present and failed to answer. Critics, including Morgan, label the invasion as "illegal," but many argue that Saddam Hussein's government was a serious threat to the U.S., regional stability, and global safety. Saddam's history of aggression, especially when he invaded Kuwait in 1990 over oil disputes, raised alarms about his ambitions for expansion. This invasion not only endangered U.S. allies but also showed his willingness to destabilize the region further. He had gathered troops near Saudi Arabia, threatening a wider assault on the Arabian Peninsula. His anti-Israel stance, including threats to "burn half of Israel" with chemical weapons, painted Iraq as a rogue state willing to engage in further aggression. Saddam's regime was notorious for extreme human rights abuses. The Anfal campaign against the Kurds in 1988 involved using chemical weapons, killing thousands of innocent people. During the 1991 Shia uprising, Iraqi forces executed many civilians and displaced people by draining marshlands. Reports reveal torture chambers, mass graves containing up to 300,000 victims, and the use of child soldiers, highlighting the horrific reality of living under Saddam's rule. His anti-Western rhetoric was coupled with support for terrorists such as Abu Nidal and Palestinian militants, further showcasing the threats his regime posed. Supporters of the invasion argue that even though no weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) were found in 2003, it was still vital to remain cautious due to Iraq's past efforts to develop nuclear weapons. The fear of a nuclear-armed Saddam emphasized the risks of not intervening. After the invasion, some suggested dividing Iraq into separate regions for Shia, Sunni, and Kurdish groups—similar to Joe Biden's proposal in 2006. This could have helped reduce violence and allowed local governments to manage their own resources.
Was the Iraq Invasion justified? It seems It may have had numerous justifications.
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I think it's very telling that the Ba'athist leadership, including the Iraqi Republican Guards, ended up in Syria with Assaad just before he started using chemical weapons against his own country (noting the Assaad regime was likewise Ba'athist in ideology). Obviously, to date there has never been outright proof of what went on in Syria regarding the Iraqi Republicans, but it certainly puts stop to the claim that there was no WMDs to worry about. Sure, maybe the West had overestimated how advanced the Iraqi developments had gone, but there can be no doubt they had the capability and moved it as soon as the going got tough. Had Hussein got to the point he could use his weapons against a peer adversary (a point that even the Syrians never got to, all their chemical weapons being used exclusively when they had air supremacy), the subsequent inevitable invasion of Kuwait would have been so much worse than the first time, and the war far more dangerous than the First or Second Gulf Wars.
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@Solar Flare true, but the WMD justification was also validated. The problem is, because the term NBC refers to Nuclear in the "N", people think that the only type of WMD is nuclear. This is incorrect. The B and C are also important - and relevant to the Iraq case. B means Biological, and C means Chemical. All three are subject to international treaties that limit and ban their use (limit and ban being the term to describe the fact that there are some agreed uses for chemical and biological warfare in a limited sense - such as deterrents for crowd control and such - but bans on biological and chemical weapons that cause certain types of harm, or that cannot be controlled). Anyway, Iraq had previously demonstrated its possession and military use of chemical, and suspected biological, weapons against internal and border targets (particularly the Kurds and Iranians), but also saw limited use in the 1st Gulf War (although direct attacks on coalition troops were never confirmed, as Sussan Hussein did not want to provoke the major powers more than he had done already - using a banned chemical weapon against Americans may provoke a literal nuclear response; however their use against Kuwaiti troops was known and proven). The fact that this stockpile was reportedly increased in both volume and capability was the trigger for the war. And these weapons all ended up in Syria, being used against various Syrian factions by the Ba'athists under Assaad. That is why there is "debate" about WMDs - some people don't understand the term NBC, and assume because it was confirmed that Iraq never developed nuclear weapons, that they therefore never possessed or produced WMDs. This is demonstrably incorrect, as the "BC" but were absolutely developed, confirmed and used.
Jews and Hate
It is always interesting and intriguing why the Jews are hated by practically everyone and that has transformed for major hate for Israel also. The reason for all of them is that Jews are totally impossible. No hated, enslaved and prosecuted people have survived, but the Jews survived milleniums of hate and trials to extermination. From the time of the paroah in Egypt, till the Nazis, and they survived all of them, and each one of them disappeared from history, after their trial. The Jews not only survived all of it, they returned to part of the land given to them by the Lord, after 2,000 years. Revived their language of more than 3,000 years ago, rebuilt the land and converted what was a barren land into a beautiful place to be. Not only that, Israel just finished digging a river in the harshest desert on this planet, the Negev, and they are working on converting that desert to be green. That is what drives all crazy. The Jews have done the impossible, and none of the other people can understand how they did it. That is why they hate the Jews because they can not make sense of it all. To see more of this in better details, look at a video I uploaded a few weeks ago that shows a beautiful overview of Israel past and present. עם ישראל חי - לתמיד
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@Solar Flare true, but that is where you go back to the conclusion - the methods to counteract delusion and lies is truth, truth and truth.
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@Solar Flare well, they didn't try to create a new canal, but they did try and make the Suez Canal a truly international transit point. As the colonial world collapsed post-WWII, the old methods of ensuring economic supply were strangled from many countries - including France and the UK, but also (interestingly) even the USA experienced the bite of these changes (it culminated a few decades later with their Invasion of Panama for mostly the same reasons). One of these was Egypt's demands for full sovereignty not just on the lands either side of the canal, and it's inclusion as a territorial sea (which most nations were happy to grant), but it's removal of international sea lane status, which most maritime trading nations definitely were not happy to agree to. See, at the time, the Suez Canal was seen to have the same status as an archipelagic sea lane - which means the country surrounding it has sovereignty, but they cannot impede neutral and friendly ships for any reason, unless they stop in the country. But if they are just transiting, they cannot be stopped or interfered with without cause (ie, a country cannot force customs dues on a ship transiting an international sea lane unless that ship is stopping in the associated country - in this case, Egypt). Now, Egypt argued that sea lane status could not apply to the canal. Britain and France said it absolutely did. So when Egypt started forcing their domestic laws on ships passing through, Britain and France invaded the canal area (although it was not a full invasion of Egypt itself, just the canal area) to "re-establish international law". Israel supported them, having recently seized the Siani Peninsula from Egypt to reopen the Red Sea sea lanes which Egypt had also closed. But then the USSR, in the UN, declared the action illegal, as part of their wider support to the pan-Arab nationalist cause (they were hoping to make some friends in so doing). The USA refused to do anything at all (a point which came back to bite them when they did the same thing in Panama a few years later) and the British and French were forced, under international pressure and UN sanctions, to withdraw. And so ended the last attempt to keep the Suez Canal open as an international sea lane. It is now, officially, an inland waterway of Egypt, and so the issues you are describing have become the reality there. And, of course, Israel gave back the Siani later as part of a perpetual peace deal with Egypt.
What Collapse Taught Me About Israel’s Fight
Civilizations do not fall all at once. They decay when their defenders hesitate, and when those who seek their destruction face no resistance. I come from Iran, a country that once moved toward modernity but was dragged into darkness by the very forces Israel confronts today. I watched a society with thousands of years of culture collapse under fanaticism, and I learned how quickly a nation can lose everything when civilization is left undefended. That experience shapes how I see Israel’s struggle. Israel stands on a frontier where movements built on cruelty and domination still believe they can break the modern world through terror. Anyone who has lived through Iran’s undoing understands how real this threat is. Standing with Israel is not a symbolic act. It is recognizing the same ideology that swallowed Iran now pressing against the borders of another nation. Israel absorbs the first blows, so others do not face them unprepared. It carries a burden most countries only understand after it is too late. A nation that holds that line is not just protecting itself. It is defending the thin boundary that separates civilization from the ruins left behind when extremism wins.
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It's fascinating if you look at the Bronze Age Collapse, the level of civilisation and intercommunication that existed immediately prior, and the nation's that were impacted - unlike later civilisation collapses, this was total, absolute and worldwide. All the then-existing civilisations (note, civilisations but not all societies, as some societies remained intact due to their lack of civil development) suffered utter collapse over similar timeframes - all around 3500 years ago - and technological regression occurred at terrifying rates. It led to the Greek (Mycenaean), Mesopotamian, 1st Chinese, and Egyptian dark ages, it led to the destruction of several civilisations including in the Indus Valley, and the Hittite Empire (to such a level that the Hittites were seen as a myth between the age of enlightenment and when archiologists finally uncovered absolute proof of their existence in the early 20th Century). In Mesopotamia, the Akkadian/Sumerian states never recovered, but the collapse led to the rise of a new power there, the Babylonians. It also facilitated the rise of the Persians - previously they had been nomadic tribes, but the Bronze Age Collapse saw their social structures revolutionise to become a dominant power of the Iron Age. And not many people know this, but Afghanistan used to be the trade centre of the ancient world. Because of its shallow mineral deposits, particularly tin, it was crucial to technological development and economic expansion in the Bronze Age. It never recovered from its collapse, not even to the present day. The Bronze Age Collapse was unique, as other collapses really only affected certain regions of empires. But the lessons of the Bronze Age Collapse are incredibly important, but also terrifying as we look at our own times. "What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. Is there a thing of which it is said, “See, this is new”? It has been already in the ages before us.
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