Hello to all, I am super excited to announce that Siddhartha Naithani has agreed to host a chat for us, called Realignments in American Politics! Please join him and show your support! Halda

Hi all, I really debated writing this post, but feel that as we grow, we will have to develop rules for our chats. We have a large variety of people here from all walks of life, traditions, cultures, spiritualities/religions, political parties, etc. Therefore, we must expect to have disagreements, especially when discussing difficult topics. That being said, there is an expectation of respect given to all parties, even when a disagreement occurs. I very much hesitated adding spiritual/religious chats for this very reason as in my experience, these chats always end up going down the same path and with the same results. However, I also fully believe that if any group of people can overcome these issues and truly begin to not only learn about each other, but ACCEPT each other, it is us. Due to my work schedule, I can only spend so many hours a day in each chat to moderate. The only way I can assign mods with administrative duties is by adding membership fees. I want to avoid doing that for as long as possible, so am asking everyone to please respect these rules. Thanks so much! Halda (aka Doc)

Below is an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen, published 1958. Skousen describes the 45 communist goals. It was also submitted to Congressional Record in 1963. A PDF file for reference is also attached. ************************ CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS [as published in 1958] 1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. 2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war. 3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. 4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. 5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites. 6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination. 7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N. 8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N. 9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress. 10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N. 11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.) 12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. 13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. 14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office. 15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. 16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

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@Eeevil Conservative and @Rr Halda, PhD I was reminded of this one when talking with you about the 45 goals,,, here's where I came across among the economic one that I mentioned (which was eye-opening, because I've seen corporations as conceptually similar, but not as an pursued objective) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4do9BPT-XU